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And yet they do. The concept of hell is so foreign, so abstract and otherworldy that in real terms, it represents very little threat to christians. Things they know will get them sent to hell. Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc are christians whose level of belief in an aspect of christianity is tied to how much they like it.

Short comment…just wanted to say that it feels as though you wrote this about my life from my point of view. I feel exactly the same way as you do. The family thing is exactly what I feel. Thanks for the words. Found this via stumbleupon. Actually your wrong, the people of the bible did not believe it was flat because it was spoken by God, examples:. Man said the world was flat: Man said that the flood could not have happened due to the amount of water in the ocean: As for what you said about light, that is where God made the space for all creation, God is outside of time, and had to define time for creation.

Scientists have discovered that by the very nature of light, it is outside of time, and if it is greater than time then it must define the lesser. You will likely mock me, and profane God for this, but like my earlier post said, God predicted that through Peter a couple thousand years ago, so why would I be put back by what God Lady wants sex NY Wellsville 14895 already told me will happen.

Let me ask you something about your opinion of God, being a megalomaniac with self esteem issues, if a man can claim to be the greatest thing that walks the planet when he dies in a years, hardly knows less than what could fill a single book, and spends all his time on himself… why Beautiful wife seeking sex McComb would God be wrong in claiming He is the Almighty when He does not die, he knows everything and acts perfectly according to His not your definition of perfect and just action, and brought into as well as sustains all things… do you not have air to breath and food to eat, be grateful for God has given everything that you have come to enjoy in this world.

Jesus has provided the means that man can live his life in peace with God, Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc with repentance comes redemption. He died, having done nothing wrong, a most horrible death so that men could tell you of His love Mc dermitt NV adult personals you, that you might not perish with Satan.

My question to you… Would any of the tactics you mentioned convince you that Christianity is the right path? I think I can answer for you… No, actually they would turn you even more away.

The reason everyone hates those guys is because having someone scream in your face, trying to scare you into a religion, is obnoxious. If you believe in no higher power, whence comes Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc definition of morality? Whatever Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc answer, I can use your own arguments against you…: In my experience in life you can not control others. As soon as my son turned 13 I began to see my self in his bad behavior. All you can do is try to be the best, most virtuous person you can be.

If you have beliefs that may lead to religion. Having a bad day may lead to intoxication. But it is you and you alone that make decisions and your parents letting you make your own means they love you.

When someone forces anything on you, you will not love it. I am well read and I reject the ancient superstitions, but some people are only listeners. Atheism is not defined by lacking morality. The argument you make is merely highlighting the semantical difference in how you Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc morality.

The dictionary makes no mention Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc a higher power. Your morality may imply a belief in God, but the concept of common decency is synonymous in terms of application and requires no such prerequisite. Do you base your actions solely on what you think God wants you to do? Or do you base Hot lady seeking casual sex Cardiff actions on previous experiences and education, on consequences both emotional, societal, and legal?

Regardless of what you say, the common perception of morality does not require God. Well, last i checked christians threw copernicus into the madhouse for suggesting the world was round, a good years after jesus died, so no they didnt know the earth was round. The amazing thing is that you say that without any doubts right after listing the some horrible things hes done to mankind…and still avoid the issue of a good christian on his expensive Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc with his lavish belongings that do not equate to his survival or worship of god.

Or the fact that god technically created all the evil in this world by creating Satan and then allowing satan to continue to exist. So apparently god wants evil in this world. Though to any psychologist, these would obvious signs it still doesnt change the underlying morality issue it brings up: Epicurus said it best.

Then Looking for funopen is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? What he is perfect at, is being chaotic and random.

Your so fast to attribute air and water to god, when man Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc can create these things… and more that god never did. What happens when we find life on another planet?. Yes i have air, because Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc rock gushed into the atmosphere blocking the sun and cooling the planet, causing moisture which when evaporated caused an o2 planet.

And where does it refer to the world being spherical? And no there is NOT more water under the earth than on it, million trillion gallons of water on the planet, heres the specs on the planet.

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And you mention frifnds jesus died so i might not have to perish with satan. I mean he sent his only son to die horribly to protect the humans from a being he himself created and can destroy at any time?

Wouldnt that have been easier and more humane? To just get rid of satan Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc of torturing his son? And how did he die for me? How can a perfect being with control over everything let Crious ones he loves so much suffer, when small simple acts would relieve the burden of all mankind.

If Cuious or Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc showed themselves, one or the other, and gave proof shoppinb themselves, id be the first person bowing in the street, and im sure thats the general consensus.

So maybe we can add agoraphobia to his list too ; … Why does a good christian woman get kidnapped and sold into white slavery to live out her life in horror and degrading agony, while the guy who kidnapped her and sold her is driving around in a Benz?

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Whats stopping that from friendw to you?. Sure isnt god apparently. So in conclusion, truth will always trump fiction, the faithful like to spew unresearched facts that they iut told by someone who has no background to be explaining these issues to you in the first Xxx massage Colebrook Connecticut. All the facts to explain the science of the bible do not add up or are just plain not facts.

All of my arguments can be looked up and verified at multiple locations. And since my facts are Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc true since they can be observed and recreated over and over.

The difference between fact and faith is that Fact can be proven, faith cannot. Who would you expect most people to believe? Guess god isnt exactly perfect at PR either huh? Too many people with false facts that they themselves have never taken the time to verify for themselves, but still believe unwaiveringly.

Belief is fine, but gullibility ruins societies. I always felt like God was watching me, I still do. Christians and the world today have a distorted view of what the bible says, and that is just because of misunderstanding. The imperfect humans were then put in a position where they could only fail entrapment because they had no concept of the difference between good and evil.

They were left alone neglected by this omnipresent? That makes this being into a criminal no matter how you translate the stories. This criminal god then proposes that he punish his imperfect creations for eternity after they have lived a relatively torture-free life on earth.

He promises to look after them if they agree to regularly slaughter and burn animals for this pleasure. He thinks nothing of psychologically torturing the son of one of his prophets by having his father truss him up and prepare him to be sacrificed to this blood-thirsty being who says he is fond of the smell of burning flesh.

He the breaks his promise in regards to Job, one of his most loyal subjects by consorting with the devil in spite of the fact that he is in agony in hell and inviting him to torture Job to see if he will break. Finally, he rapes an unmarried Jewish virgin and gets her pregnant with part of himself. He abandons himself huh? And forget his history of failing to protect Job. Instead, Christians blame the victims, not the torturer.

It is so insane that you have to be indoctrinated to believe it. But this whole article is stupid and make atheists look stupid. This is hardly profound, do you not think these delusional religious idiots have already considered this. That, and many of them believe that if you are destined to be saved, you will be, regardless of their own efforts. God allows bad things to happen because he wants people who can think, and choose to worship him freely, not puppets, that pain happens is because men get desires for things, which are then heightened by the fact that one day they will die, and therefore seek out in whichever way is deemed appropriate for that own persons moral beliefs, the fact that people get kidnapped is due to lust for one of a number of things.

As for the water subject, in the last fifty years they foudn out that there are fountains which cover the oceans floor, and that under these fountains there is twice as much water as there is in the ocean. As for light http: I also meant to tag this on there so you can see a source, and even look up the verses if you want to. Like seriously read it? Though our perception of time may vary in different instances, time itself does not change around the universe due to that.

It was like reading a version of the Kevin Bacon game that applied Swinger clubs Denmark Tennessee physics. Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc saying light has a limit on its travel because space is too big?

And light is not conical, its linear. Plus nowhere does it say light is outside of time, it says theres a limit to its travel due to time restraints on the universe. THEN it says folding light can reverse time…hell of a waffle there… Yeah its just as silly as it sounds lol Now im not tryin to start a physics debate, but maybe you should try more than one source for your info, not just the one by the guy who happens to share your religious view… which is my whole point anyways.

Your so sure that your faith is more correct than say the muslim or sumerian faith, though their religions are older than yours. I would hope not…crunch the numbers yourself, i did, with a calculator…so unless its malfunctioning, that theory is impossible. Believe it or not, since the earth has always been the same distance from the sun since it was formed, there were still warm and cold seasons based on its varying distance from the sun in its rotation. If you cut into a volcano you find the same thing… and not all the volcanoes were here when the earth was formed, weve carbon dated the rocks, we KNOW they werent.

To offer me verses for scientific explanations is direct proof of this fact. How about the fact that the original new testament was written approximately years after Jesus died? Pretty amazing seeing as how the books were written by his disciples under divine influence… but that would make the disciples between years old when they were written… pretty amazing for a time when lifespan average was 30 to begin with, 60 for those that were well taken care of reserved usually for Kings and princes.

So what does the accuracy of a fallacy mean? I can tell the perfectly accurate story of Peter Pan, it doesnt make it anymore real. Now if you take a passage from the bible and relate to a standpoint of physics not written by a person of bias to one side of an arguement You can say scientists are biased against god, but that still leaves about a billion avenues for them to Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc to.

Someone who is biased with god, only has one choice to explain with. But if you do that, i would be more inclined to believed it. So far though, youve provided a lot of conjecture to already proven facts, but not bit of solid evidence.

So ill Just leave this conversation for good with this… Good luck to the author, dont worry about your parents, im sure they still love you, and theyll die loving you most likely.

Catch up on things youve missed out on due to moral restraints from a invisible being. Either God can create a stone that he cannot lift, or he cannot create a stone that he cannot lift. I thought Sexy lady searching real porno horny women online of the time children were shocked when they first heard about the variety of things their belief means.

Not one of them tried to clean things or successfully swore off yogurt. If this is the difference between belief and knowledge…. What I see the most of is the adamant desire to not have Christians interrupt our lives. Maybe a little preaching effort to convert us or such would be Birmingham casual sex wives but the alienation and often direct hostility are pretty nasty, though even those pale in comparison to those nasty little cases where religious groups manage to mandate aspects of their Horney Stirling singles into law.

Are you kidding me? Religion throughout history has been a major proponent of extreme cases of alienation such as racism and sexism. I would be ok with people trying to convert Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc a little Lady looking sex tonight Prairie Village. The vandalism and danger of going into dark alleys is worse.

Worst of all is when Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc make laws saying I have to do things that are part of their faith. Not being allowed to own sex toys or go shopping on Sunday is more invasive but still not Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc that bad. Being taxed or deprived of resources according to what they approve of is getting very bad but at least this is about the furthest I ever expect to actually suffer through.

I really liked your post. My boyfriend believes in God, but not the church. I am not a believer and am interested in knowing why and how they believe. But, my boyfriend has claimed that I will go to hell and that I should repent.

Sort of the same with your parents I guess. But I just wanted to let you know I liked your post. Back to the whole masturbation thing… I clearly remember NEVER TRULY believing in the whole religion thing despite my Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc efforts and even more so by my parents who are extreme right wing christian fundamentalists, and are damn proud of it — I come from the same town as Rush Limbaugh and his family, some of which attended our church.

Morning wood…everyone gets it, and I got it every Sunday, several times between Let me explain, when I am bored to tears, I either tap my hands and feet fervently or automatically go to sleep. I would doze off so frequently in church that whenever I would wake up, I would have morning wood in the middle of church; I mean this was a half a dozen per service ordeal for me, and I NEVER felt guilty about it. I never told this to my parents of course, but over time they did accept that I think religion is B.

I wonder how many others who Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc off to sleep during the Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc service had the same issue…? Well, the value or not of religion aside, it could be explained like cholesterol: We know there are serious consequences. Yet we continue to munch that burger — with extra fries and a milkshake too. Maybe Charlie will be Saved again next week.

In reality of course, we DO see people die Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc heart disease. But we Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc never seen someone drop through a crack in the earth into hell.

The baseline Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc all these religions is to pull back our past animalistic nature and give us a path of goodwill…. I believe all the different religions in the world come from the same source, they are all just different translations.

Being a deist, I can see were this is coming from. But Cuious are active, missionary work is the largest maje. The difference between missionary work and what your talking about is prosthelytizing, which Christians take umbrage to and atheists are all too ready to accuse them of.

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FDA and a whole lot of other organizations agree. But smokers still smoke. The problem you present is not a problem with just Christians. It is a global problem. This change and Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc entire concept of eternal suffering is hard for many Christians especially young Christians to grasp.

Before the missionaries got back about 5 years later there were 6 neighboring villages with churches in them as well all started with the one. It is the longest endurance race ever to have been devised by any mind. What has always struck me as odd is that Xtians give utmost importance to the event Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc baptism…as if converting was the end all be all of Xtianity. I think this is unsound dogma.

The time that should be most important is the TOD. I also find it odd that Christmas is more celebrated than the Crucifiction and Resurrection.

My point is this: It is God who changes you. You are not pure Old ladies sex in Rio De Ossos sinless at the time of conversion. The point of God and Jesus and faith is that: God does want everyone to be saved so that they could be with him for eternity.

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Jesus is always there to provide encouragement and example on how to live like him. Feeling guilty for things that you have already been forgiven for just serves as a detriment to personal growth. If you look at all the NT Xtians, there seemed to be a lot of death going on in that circle…why is that? As a human being, there are many fears to occupy oneself with. The fear of Death is the very last one that needs to be conquered if one really is a believer of Christ, who, himself, conquered the very same thing…Death.

Who really is to know if your parents or any other Xtian would be willing to stick it out for an entire lifetime…did you stick it out that long? No one knows what heaven is like, nor hell. There is a God, not a pastor, a church, a congregation who is willing to help you along until the bitter end, and will always stay faithful to you. There is a Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc, who has done more than just take your place in your judgement and condemnation, who is willing to stick by you through thick and Kingston mines IL cheating wives, in faith and in lack of faith, through every conflict and resolution of your entire life…and they both do so out of love, never for the sake of justice.

So, please do, ask your questions. Those who can answer will have to look deeper into their hearts to truly understand your questions.

All of the twelve were prophesied to have fallen away when Jesus was killed. Peter denied being his follower three times.

I do have a question for you: Why did you believe in the first place? You could ask your parents the same thing…. Another question for everyone: Why would Jesus go through all that pain and suffering if there was no real consequence to how one lived? Are ex-Xtians really rebelling against God, or are Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc rebelling against Xtian a holes who want to oppress and control other people?

If you boil it down to its basic elements, people have no right to be angry at God…people should be angry at a holes who misrepresent God…hell, even God is mad about that. I mean, hey, we all have questions and grudges and Nude couples South Mountain reserved Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc toward God, but the main problem is that we never ever ever address Him directly.

I guess that makes your problem a paradox. There comes a time in life when you should just man-up and go to God and tell him: Or would you consider him to be deranged and possibly dangerous? If we went by gods logic, as long as we kill one criminal in the most horrible fashion we can think of, then all of the rest should be absolved of their crimes.

Does that make sense? How can one person morally pay for something that another person has done, much less an entire species? It defeats the point of personal morality and Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc for their own actions if the punishment can just be shifted onto another person. If i killed someone and you went to jail for it in my place, am I no longer a murderer?

Wheres the motivation for me not to do it again? But you are right about one thing, we dont ever address god Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc about these issues we have… so if you wouldnt mind giving me his phone number or place of business where i can reach him, i would be happy to relay these thoughts directly.

My sister is a better example of actually believing things. Now this Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc obviously not the religious model because traditionally convincing people has been a matter of battling faiths. For seeding ideas into an effectively agnostic group the last thing you want to do is fight people, at least not unless you can convert most of them quickly before anyone starts to hold a grudge.

Well this is a pointless argument… when ever you decide to argue with someone whom is religious it is compleatly pointless because they cannot prove their point without using logical falacies. If you believe in God because your family does… that is appeal to tradition.

You should do what God says and never question him. He must because you cannot question him, and he can punish you…. And God is Love??

Why on earth do you atheists have to go from one extreme to another. I mean really you are only doing the same thing in reverse. I am not going to start sending you to websites. You can do it your self, but there is so much neuroscience and physics now showing that Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc are living in a holographic universe.

If you look from that point,there is another story. There have got to be better things to do with our time than this. Christians do it the most often but I run into a lot of… whatever you are, that come in with your new age supernatural stuff. Disturbingly enough this is probably the same logic evangelists use to get where they go.

Atheist or not, if you actually read the bible you would I dare you college girl more appalled at god than pleased with him. God is the biggest mass murderer in human history, and real or not, has been the center of the cause of all these atrocities.

Seriously, stop just reading the parts of the bible that make you happy, read it all, and comprehend what your reading. Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc understand your following a mass murderer who highly endorses child murder and virginal rape. Whose morals seem a little tighter now? The morals of a murdering rapist?

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Or the morals of those who do not endorse murder and rape? No logic there… at all… period. Could you please show me the evidence that there is no God, since your argument is that Christians have no evidence? Please point me to your evidence, Butte,5094 adult personals you obviously have something that no one else in the world has.

Let me see you prove your point that God does not exist without using logical fallacies. If this is a dilemma for pro-lifers, then what is the excuse for the entire human race sitting by and allowing genocide, electric chairs, hangings of homosexuals in Iran, blowing up children in Iraq, etc. This is demonstrated in many ways in humanity. What do Curious friends make out buddy shopping etc expect people Curioue do?

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Religion was invented to counteract the human fear of death. All the rest is window dressing. Eventually, a handful of miscreants discovered that religion was also a very shoppinb instrument of crowd control, and they set about making themselves the controllers. Humans have been busy separating and distancing themselves from the shoppin, natural world around them for millennia, and they tend Woman wants hot sex Nallen leave themselves very little time for rumination on the things they believe and why.

So religion became nothing more than a string of corporations, all vying for a share of the market nuddy is human belief. And people began to practice brand loyalty, though some occasionally switch from one to another.

Egc is just the advertising department. The more I willed them to please please give Phat horny girls in austin tx a chance, the more it drove them budvy. I just seem aggressive and arrogant. I truly believe that God will show Himself to them plently of times, and hopefully their heart is strong enough to one day believe.

Athiests and Christians both know there is a God. Well, someone didnt bother reading through the comments did they WER? Logic is a predetermined answer based on assimilated data that is already available… meaning the information is already there, meaning it can in no way shape or form by definition be a fallacy. A fallacy is something that is implied without reasonable data to back up its existence, such as the tooth fairy or santa clause, who would be considered fallacies.

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Also fits the KS and R. The lightweight aluminum bracket with stainless steel hardware is almost completely invisible when on the bike. The backrest slides off in 15 seconds! Fits all model years We also have a GT version which utilizes the same bracket friens, but with GT exclusive fabric. Thousands of happy customers!. Soon to be discontinued.

Don't say you haven't been warned Both slide down over the backrest via a tailored sleeve and shoppihg lock securely into place with quick release clips. Both offer EASY access and a rigid design so they maintain shape when empty thanks to dual wall construction. Yes, when used with the custom tailored inner rain sleeves that come standard with each bag. For two-up, I suggest the Universal. ZTechnik Storage Pod Are you like me and would rather have a salt encrusted, flaming, pointy stick shoved in your eye than stick an ugly tankbag on your bike?

Removable inner tray features three zippered storage pockets and a zippered document holder.